Heavier line than reel is rated for? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

onetriphudson · 03-23-2011, 08:21 AM

Anyone ever try a bimini twist? I worked with a guy at Seaforth that used that for his top shots. Crazy knot man, not something you can tie on a kayak. The dude had his legs and arms busy and took 15 minutes to tie.

grey zone · 03-23-2011, 08:36 AM

The bimini twist is one of the strongest connections but it makes too large of a knot.

taggermike · 03-23-2011, 08:41 AM

I started out using spectra as a backing only, with about 1/2 the spool spec and 1/2 the spool mono. I was a bit nervous about casting the spec or having a knot pass through the guides. But a few years ago I started filling my reels all the way up with spec and only using 3-5' of mono or fluoro as top shot. I have no trouble casting the spec and feel it casts better than mono. Using spec for baybass fishing I realized how many bites I've been missing over the years with mono. With 0 stretch you feel ever thing. Same with deep water coding. I also like the option of using different line tests on the same reel for different applications. I have a sort of calico set up with 30lb spec on a curado 200. I run 10-15lb on it in the bay or local kelp. I recently took a trip to baja where I was casting large jerk baits right in to mangrove roots. I switched the top shot to 30lb fluoro for abrasion resistance and it worked very well. Also the 0 stretch let me really set the hook and keep the fish coming toward the boat. Mike

BrokeLoser · 03-23-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by taggermike

I started filling my reels all the way up with spec and only using 3-5' of mono or fluoro as top shot.

Do you guys always tie a uni to uni or an albright (which takes me 5 minutes to tie)
Or, use a swivel when you're running a short lead of say 2 to 4 feet and you can prevent the swivel from running through the guides?

MarkT · 03-23-2011, 10:08 AM

I use a Bob Sands/Tony Pena knot to join the mono/fluoro to the spectra. It's low profile and passes through the guides just fine. On local stuff I don't use fluoro, just mono. I use a fluoro leader in a pick Albie/Tuna trip.

grey zone · 03-23-2011, 12:54 PM

Use a swivel that has a ring large enough so it will not pass through the tip. And yes, it does take more time to tie a splice, but the time it takes to tie one will decrease with practice.

sasha · 03-23-2011, 01:01 PM

Hey thats lots of great info right there. You guys answered a few of the Qs i been thinking about as well.. So even if i didnt start the thread I got to thank you all.. Waiting for the weather to get better to go out there again. Cant wait to catch a nice keeper.

Sasha

yaknewb · 03-23-2011, 08:45 PM

So i was wondering if any body has about 12yards or so of braid the wont be useing any time soon that i could buy off you?

bus kid · 03-23-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by yaknewb

So i was wondering if any body has about 12yards or so of braid the wont be useing any time soon that i could buy off you?

here ya go, best I could do at 950 pm

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=9733

03-23-2011, 08:45 PM	#8
yaknewb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 143	Extra Braid? So i was wondering if any body has about 12yards or so of braid the wont be useing any time soon that i could buy off you?

03-23-2011, 08:21 AM	#1
onetriphudson Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 143	Anyone ever try a bimini twist? I worked with a guy at Seaforth that used that for his top shots. Crazy knot man, not something you can tie on a kayak. The dude had his legs and arms busy and took 15 minutes to tie.

03-23-2011, 08:36 AM	#2
grey zone Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 158	The bimini twist is one of the strongest connections but it makes too large of a knot.

03-23-2011, 08:41 AM	#3
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I started out using spectra as a backing only, with about 1/2 the spool spec and 1/2 the spool mono. I was a bit nervous about casting the spec or having a knot pass through the guides. But a few years ago I started filling my reels all the way up with spec and only using 3-5' of mono or fluoro as top shot. I have no trouble casting the spec and feel it casts better than mono. Using spec for baybass fishing I realized how many bites I've been missing over the years with mono. With 0 stretch you feel ever thing. Same with deep water coding. I also like the option of using different line tests on the same reel for different applications. I have a sort of calico set up with 30lb spec on a curado 200. I run 10-15lb on it in the bay or local kelp. I recently took a trip to baja where I was casting large jerk baits right in to mangrove roots. I switched the top shot to 30lb fluoro for abrasion resistance and it worked very well. Also the 0 stretch let me really set the hook and keep the fish coming toward the boat. Mike

03-23-2011, 10:08 AM	#5
MarkT Deep Release Specialist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 94	I use a Bob Sands/Tony Pena knot to join the mono/fluoro to the spectra. It's low profile and passes through the guides just fine. On local stuff I don't use fluoro, just mono. I use a fluoro leader in a pick Albie/Tuna trip.

03-23-2011, 12:54 PM	#6
grey zone Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 158	Use a swivel that has a ring large enough so it will not pass through the tip. And yes, it does take more time to tie a splice, but the time it takes to tie one will decrease with practice.

03-23-2011, 01:01 PM	#7
sasha Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 275	Hey thats lots of great info right there. You guys answered a few of the Qs i been thinking about as well.. So even if i didnt start the thread I got to thank you all.. Waiting for the weather to get better to go out there again. Cant wait to catch a nice keeper. Sasha