PA and Revo - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Monovasia · 09-20-2011, 12:15 PM

I do not think yo can go wrong with either boat....I fish a Revo, love it...fast, tracks well, stable and stuff capacity is fine with me...that being said the PA is an outstanding boat...

The only area I can think of where the Revo has an advantage beyond weight is if the drive breaks down....Sunday was blowing stink in the afternoon...if for any reason you were offshore in a PA with a bad mirage drive, paddling home would be an exercise in V-TAC...I never would have made it and I am in reasonable shape. I did paddle my Revo back to the harbor and am still stiff today, but I did it...

TCS · 09-21-2011, 07:15 AM

What's the skinny on the new model PA?
What is different?
When will we see it?

WahooUSMA · 09-21-2011, 08:28 AM

PA!!!!!!

bus kid · 09-21-2011, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahooUSMA

PA!!!!!!

Easy to say when your 6"10 and can bench a Cadillac.

if you do decide to sell yours now that there's a PB...

Monovasia · 09-23-2011, 10:18 AM

Thanks for the welcome, a great site for sure....I actually came within a minute of two of losing my drive...caught it just in time as the one f the turbo flippers was about to jettison...I always carry my paddle...but I do see some guys who don't...

You really would need vessel assist if she threw a fin

driftwood · 09-23-2011, 10:36 AM

Bus Kid, Let me help you make the right decision. Do you own truck? If you don't, don't buy the PA. (simple)

Now, if you do own a truck buy the PA. After 6 month if you decide you don't like the PA you could sell it fast for almost what you paid for it and buy the ouback. Its almost a win-win situation.

That was my plan before i bought a Hobie. I still plan to keep the PA for a loooong time!

hook1fred · 09-23-2011, 09:32 PM

When I first purchased my PA I thought I'd roof rack it on my lifted tahoe..... That wasn't gonna happen. I decided to purchase a foldable trailer for 300 bucks and it works ok. Easy off and on without busting my back, although it does make parking in LJ interesting

sandydiego · 09-24-2011, 05:30 AM

What? The PA a FAT LADY? I liken it to a kayak AR15. The current ultimate fishing weapon. You do need to keep your weapon in proper working order.

First, If you don't check your drive every time you go out, you are setting your self up for a eventual failure. I can hear the guys on the water with their drives out of adjustment. Bet the fish hear it as well...... It takes 5 minutes to adjust your drive before you go out and you get a nice quiet drive.

Second. Stand up paddle rocks. I picked up a SUP after watching Kurtfish and how fast you can get the PA going. If you do have a drive issue, the combo of a kayak paddle and standup paddle will get you back with minimal hassle. Yes - It aint no Mirage Drive.

I have been on a PA now for a year and a half, I would not even consider anything else right now. Why are the so many more PA's in LJ? Stop! Ha.

Cheers

Steve

TCS · 09-25-2011, 07:14 AM

Reading these posts on the computer I actually started thinking about an upgrade. Then I took out the adventure for a nice long session yesterday and remembered why I like it so much.

At 16 feet with a pointed bow and stern it really slices through the water. Although not an issue yesterday, this hull design also handles great in surf entries and exits, and handles a folloiwing swell really well.

Its narrow. It's low. And that's good. I'm a surfer and I'm used to being close to the water. I can drop my legs over the side easily for a break or fighing the odd fish. Comfort? I can peddle for 8 hours with no pain. Stability? it seems a little tippy at first but terminal stability is awesome.

I've been out at night quite a bit. Bump in the night? I really don't think that's a big safety concern although you do think about it...

Point is, this thread makes is sound like the PA is the only good option. I'm sure its an awesome option, but if I had one I would keep the adventure too because there are definitely some things I like better about it.

Downside of the adventure? Wet butt gets old, particularly in winter. Accessing the front hatch on the water is really hard and requires removing the mirage drive. When I had 3 40lb wsb on it one niight this year the stern was completely under water, and that was with two of the fish under my lap. The adventure does NOT turn in it's own radius and would be a pain for lobster fishing.

Also, I'm sure there are just as many or more pro-revo people out there who didn't post.

467echo · 09-25-2011, 07:09 PM

Yesterday was my first day on the PA, I recently upgraded from the revo. For all the reasons previously stated, I LIKEY! You really do feel like you are the captain of a battleship. One of the best parts is having the dry love seat.

Another thing I like about it is the angle of the seat to the peddles. On my revo after peddling long distances my legs would start to get a little tingly. I'm not sure if its because of the angle or the fact that I got up and stretched yesterday. It could just be my beer not getting proper flow to my legs.

Either way it was all good yesterday. You also gain a few clicks on the mirage drive. i went from a 6 on the revo to a 3 in the PA. On my revo, if you use a mast mount FF then you are almost kicking into your FF.

For my first day standing on it I could do everything but cast an iron. Still need some balancing practice, or try before the beers

I did notice I could throw the iron alot further just sitting down and being able to get my body into it.

As for the surf, I wish it would have challenged me a little more. But with the capability of taking your reels off and putting them in a dry bag and stowing your rods it could ease your stomach a little when you are coming in from that wide open WSB spring night with 4 foot sets to your back in the dark.

The rudder on the PA is nice because kelp wont get hung up on it, which is also nice for launchings and landings.

These are just a few of my first good impressions, hope to get some blood on it soon!

driftwood · 09-25-2011, 07:39 PM

Did you try pissing standing up on the PA? Thats what i like about the PA... you don't need special waders to pee. you could stand military style and pee. A TEN HUT!!

467echo · 09-25-2011, 07:45 PM

Yep, just have to practice not whizzing all over the boat!

mtnbykr2 · 09-22-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monovasia

I do not think yo can go wrong with either boat....I fish a Revo, love it...fast, tracks well, stable and stuff capacity is fine with me...that being said the PA is an outstanding boat...

The only area I can think of where the Revo has an advantage beyond weight is if the drive breaks down....Sunday was blowing stink in the afternoon...if for any reason you were offshore in a PA with a bad mirage drive, paddling home would be an exercise in V-TAC...I never would have made it and I am in reasonable shape. I did paddle my Revo back to the harbor and am still stiff today, but I did it...

yeah welcome to the addiction, I agree about a failed mirage drive or steering in a PA,
I lost the steering about 5 miles out, in my Outback and it is a definate work out to paddle back a tupperware bowl...but you gotta love those PAs

09-21-2011, 08:28 AM	#3
WahooUSMA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 753	PA!!!!!! __________________ GO ARMY BEAT NAVY! Bad decisions make great stories!

09-25-2011, 07:09 PM	#10
467echo Rookie of the Month Club Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mira Mesa Posts: 483	Yesterday was my first day on the PA, I recently upgraded from the revo. For all the reasons previously stated, I LIKEY! You really do feel like you are the captain of a battleship. One of the best parts is having the dry love seat. Another thing I like about it is the angle of the seat to the peddles. On my revo after peddling long distances my legs would start to get a little tingly. I'm not sure if its because of the angle or the fact that I got up and stretched yesterday. It could just be my beer not getting proper flow to my legs. Either way it was all good yesterday. You also gain a few clicks on the mirage drive. i went from a 6 on the revo to a 3 in the PA. On my revo, if you use a mast mount FF then you are almost kicking into your FF. For my first day standing on it I could do everything but cast an iron. Still need some balancing practice, or try before the beers I did notice I could throw the iron alot further just sitting down and being able to get my body into it. As for the surf, I wish it would have challenged me a little more. But with the capability of taking your reels off and putting them in a dry bag and stowing your rods it could ease your stomach a little when you are coming in from that wide open WSB spring night with 4 foot sets to your back in the dark. The rudder on the PA is nice because kelp wont get hung up on it, which is also nice for launchings and landings. These are just a few of my first good impressions, hope to get some blood on it soon! __________________ they are getting bigger....

09-25-2011, 07:45 PM	#12
467echo Rookie of the Month Club Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mira Mesa Posts: 483	Yep, just have to practice not whizzing all over the boat! __________________ they are getting bigger....

09-20-2011, 12:15 PM	#1
Monovasia Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 38	I do not think yo can go wrong with either boat....I fish a Revo, love it...fast, tracks well, stable and stuff capacity is fine with me...that being said the PA is an outstanding boat... The only area I can think of where the Revo has an advantage beyond weight is if the drive breaks down....Sunday was blowing stink in the afternoon...if for any reason you were offshore in a PA with a bad mirage drive, paddling home would be an exercise in V-TAC...I never would have made it and I am in reasonable shape. I did paddle my Revo back to the harbor and am still stiff today, but I did it...

09-21-2011, 07:15 AM	#2
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	What's the skinny on the new model PA? What is different? When will we see it?

09-23-2011, 10:18 AM	#5
Monovasia Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 38	Thanks for the welcome, a great site for sure....I actually came within a minute of two of losing my drive...caught it just in time as the one f the turbo flippers was about to jettison...I always carry my paddle...but I do see some guys who don't... You really would need vessel assist if she threw a fin

09-23-2011, 10:36 AM	#6
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Bus Kid, Let me help you make the right decision. Do you own truck? If you don't, don't buy the PA. (simple) Now, if you do own a truck buy the PA. After 6 month if you decide you don't like the PA you could sell it fast for almost what you paid for it and buy the ouback. Its almost a win-win situation. That was my plan before i bought a Hobie. I still plan to keep the PA for a loooong time!

09-23-2011, 09:32 PM	#7
hook1fred Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	When I first purchased my PA I thought I'd roof rack it on my lifted tahoe..... That wasn't gonna happen. I decided to purchase a foldable trailer for 300 bucks and it works ok. Easy off and on without busting my back, although it does make parking in LJ interesting

09-24-2011, 05:30 AM	#8
sandydiego Rum Pirate Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wilds of Mira Mesa Posts: 388	What? The PA a FAT LADY? I liken it to a kayak AR15. The current ultimate fishing weapon. You do need to keep your weapon in proper working order. First, If you don't check your drive every time you go out, you are setting your self up for a eventual failure. I can hear the guys on the water with their drives out of adjustment. Bet the fish hear it as well...... It takes 5 minutes to adjust your drive before you go out and you get a nice quiet drive. Second. Stand up paddle rocks. I picked up a SUP after watching Kurtfish and how fast you can get the PA going. If you do have a drive issue, the combo of a kayak paddle and standup paddle will get you back with minimal hassle. Yes - It aint no Mirage Drive. I have been on a PA now for a year and a half, I would not even consider anything else right now. Why are the so many more PA's in LJ? Stop! Ha. Cheers Steve

09-25-2011, 07:14 AM	#9
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Reading these posts on the computer I actually started thinking about an upgrade. Then I took out the adventure for a nice long session yesterday and remembered why I like it so much. At 16 feet with a pointed bow and stern it really slices through the water. Although not an issue yesterday, this hull design also handles great in surf entries and exits, and handles a folloiwing swell really well. Its narrow. It's low. And that's good. I'm a surfer and I'm used to being close to the water. I can drop my legs over the side easily for a break or fighing the odd fish. Comfort? I can peddle for 8 hours with no pain. Stability? it seems a little tippy at first but terminal stability is awesome. I've been out at night quite a bit. Bump in the night? I really don't think that's a big safety concern although you do think about it... Point is, this thread makes is sound like the PA is the only good option. I'm sure its an awesome option, but if I had one I would keep the adventure too because there are definitely some things I like better about it. Downside of the adventure? Wet butt gets old, particularly in winter. Accessing the front hatch on the water is really hard and requires removing the mirage drive. When I had 3 40lb wsb on it one niight this year the stern was completely under water, and that was with two of the fish under my lap. The adventure does NOT turn in it's own radius and would be a pain for lobster fishing. Also, I'm sure there are just as many or more pro-revo people out there who didn't post.

09-25-2011, 07:39 PM	#11
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Did you try pissing standing up on the PA? Thats what i like about the PA... you don't need special waders to pee. you could stand military style and pee. A TEN HUT!!